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Wouter
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Unfortunately Belgium has quite a lot of dumb laws...
But stop blabbering about racism... Everyone has to wait for 3 months, foreigner or Belgian.
By the way: someone who learnt how to drive for example in India or Ghana, not only will have to learn how to drive by our rules, but he/she will first have to "unlearn" how to drive the foreign way... Takes even more time and practice!
So I understand that it's very inconvenient for you, but these rules in particular are not all that dumb...
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Wouter schreef:Unfortunately Belgium has quite a lot of dumb laws...
But stop blabbering about racism... Everyone has to wait for 3 months, foreigner or Belgian.
By the way: someone who learnt how to drive for example in India or Ghana, not only will have to learn how to drive by our rules, but he/she will first have to "unlearn" how to drive the foreign way... Takes even more time and practice!
So I understand that it's very inconvenient for you, but these rules in particular are not all that dumb...


About the driving without a proper coach:
I'm not completely sure, but I believe the fine can be from 550 euros up to 5500 euros!!

I thought it was only for foreigners the 3 month period. :)
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This is considered Racism if you come from another country
This has nothing to do with racisme. This is the law for everyone who lives in Belgium.
Those 3 months are usefull to get used to the Belgian (or European) rules and the way of driving.
I don't think it is a stupid low. In Belgium we want very safe and carefull drivers.
So you get 3 months time to adapt at the the Belgian way of driving.
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Gast

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de rijprof schreef:
This is considered Racism if you come from another country
This has nothing to do with racisme. This is the law for everyone who lives in Belgium.
Those 3 months are usefull to get used to the Belgian (or European) rules and the way of driving.
I don't think it is a stupid low. In Belgium we want very safe and carefull drivers.
So you get 3 months time to adapt at the the Belgian way of driving.

agree, but what about if you dont have a person that can come with you during 3 months, what about if you dont have any belgium friend.?

then 3 months later you will take the practical exam, and you did not practice during those 3 months. lol
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agree, but what about if you dont have a person that can come with you during 3 months, what about if you dont have any belgium friend.?
Then the other option is that you follow 20 hours driving school and after those 20 hours you can get a license that allows you to practice alone.
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jeancarlo

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de rijprof schreef:
agree, but what about if you dont have a person that can come with you during 3 months, what about if you dont have any belgium friend.?
Then the other option is that you follow 20 hours driving school and after those 20 hours you can get a license that allows you to practice alone.
Yes I know, I just want to point that the rules doesnt exactly mean that you are going to practice 3 months. If no driver is with you, you dont practice and you can still pass the practical exam if you are an experienced driver.

Anyways, I know I will pass the practical exam, without practicing for 3 months, I have been driving for 18 years, and I drove already in belgium for 6 Months when my IDL was valid.

In my opinion the rules is not well thought for cases like this one.
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Anyways, I know I will pass the practical exam, without practicing for 3 months, I have been driving for 18 years,
The practical exam is not only driving in the street.
You have to know some things about the engine, the wheels of the car; The tires of a car; The seat adjustmenst etc...

If you have a friend who speaks Dutch, you can download our practical guide (140 pages)
DOWNLOAD HET BOEK NAAR JE COMPUTER
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In my opinion the rules are not well thought for cases like this one.
Indeed, in your case there should be a faster solution to get your permanent driving license. But we can't change the low, unfortunately. :cry:
Maybe in the future the governement(s), in a globalised world, could think about another and faster system for people who have an IDL.
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luisvalencia123

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GRO schreef:
Anyways, I know I will pass the practical exam, without practicing for 3 months, I have been driving for 18 years,
The practical exam is not only driving in the street.
You have to know some things about the engine, the wheels of the car; The tires of a car; The seat adjustmenst etc...

If you have a friend who speaks Dutch, you can download our practical guide (140 pages)
DOWNLOAD HET BOEK NAAR JE COMPUTER
Yes, I am aware of that also. Thank you :)
Inazuma
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Gast schreef:What are the consequences of driving without an accompanying driver? If the police stops to check papers?

What about if I go with a driver that has instead of 8 years of experience, only 7 or 4? If the police stops to check papers?

What are the consequences on both cases in case of an accident?
The fine is the same in both cases :
for the driver who doesn't follow the rules of the temporary driver's license, case 1° below,
for the person accompanying him, case 2°

Artikel 30 § 2. Met geldboete van 50 euro tot 500 euro, wordt gestraft hij die :

1° een overtreding heeft begaan van de bepalingen door de Koning vastgesteld krachtens artikel 23 §1, 2° en 4°, hetzij als bestuurder, hetzij als persoon die een bestuurder begeleidt met het oog op de scholing;

2° met het oog op de scholing in het sturen, een persoon begeleidt die in overtreding is met de bepalingen van 1°.


Basically, 50 to 500 euro fine (on the verdict), which has to be multiplied by 5.5 , so in real life it becomes a 275 to 2750 euro fine.
(The 5.5 is a factor to bring fines in line with the cost of living. Now and then it gets updated to increase all fines without having to change all laws mentioning a fine.)

Being fined for 26 euro or more (on the verdict), means you'd have to pay an additional contribution of 137.5 euro .
In addition to that, there are the Court fees - which are around 40 euro for a simple case.


In case of an accident, the insurance company might try to recover the claims they paid out to the third party involved.
Yiran You
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Hi, I have been reading this tread.

I am going to take the theory exam next week and will be looking for a driving school or instructor for practice afterwards. Is there any recommendation for school or instructor for Beverst/Bilzen area?

Thank you in advance.
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