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door Yiran You » 03 okt 2016, 15:14

Hi, I have been reading this tread.

I am going to take the theory exam next week and will be looking for a driving school or instructor for practice afterwards. Is there any recommendation for school or instructor for Beverst/Bilzen area?

Thank you in advance.

Re: x

door Inazuma » 07 dec 2011, 11:01

Gast schreef:What are the consequences of driving without an accompanying driver? If the police stops to check papers?

What about if I go with a driver that has instead of 8 years of experience, only 7 or 4? If the police stops to check papers?

What are the consequences on both cases in case of an accident?
The fine is the same in both cases :
for the driver who doesn't follow the rules of the temporary driver's license, case 1° below,
for the person accompanying him, case 2°

Artikel 30 § 2. Met geldboete van 50 euro tot 500 euro, wordt gestraft hij die :

1° een overtreding heeft begaan van de bepalingen door de Koning vastgesteld krachtens artikel 23 §1, 2° en 4°, hetzij als bestuurder, hetzij als persoon die een bestuurder begeleidt met het oog op de scholing;

2° met het oog op de scholing in het sturen, een persoon begeleidt die in overtreding is met de bepalingen van 1°.


Basically, 50 to 500 euro fine (on the verdict), which has to be multiplied by 5.5 , so in real life it becomes a 275 to 2750 euro fine.
(The 5.5 is a factor to bring fines in line with the cost of living. Now and then it gets updated to increase all fines without having to change all laws mentioning a fine.)

Being fined for 26 euro or more (on the verdict), means you'd have to pay an additional contribution of 137.5 euro .
In addition to that, there are the Court fees - which are around 40 euro for a simple case.


In case of an accident, the insurance company might try to recover the claims they paid out to the third party involved.

Re: x

door luisvalencia123 » 06 dec 2011, 10:55

GRO schreef:
Anyways, I know I will pass the practical exam, without practicing for 3 months, I have been driving for 18 years,
The practical exam is not only driving in the street.
You have to know some things about the engine, the wheels of the car; The tires of a car; The seat adjustmenst etc...

If you have a friend who speaks Dutch, you can download our practical guide (140 pages)
DOWNLOAD HET BOEK NAAR JE COMPUTER
Yes, I am aware of that also. Thank you :)

Re: x

door de rijprof » 06 dec 2011, 00:36

In my opinion the rules are not well thought for cases like this one.
Indeed, in your case there should be a faster solution to get your permanent driving license. But we can't change the low, unfortunately. :cry:
Maybe in the future the governement(s), in a globalised world, could think about another and faster system for people who have an IDL.

Re: x

door GRO » 06 dec 2011, 00:27

Anyways, I know I will pass the practical exam, without practicing for 3 months, I have been driving for 18 years,
The practical exam is not only driving in the street.
You have to know some things about the engine, the wheels of the car; The tires of a car; The seat adjustmenst etc...

If you have a friend who speaks Dutch, you can download our practical guide (140 pages)
DOWNLOAD HET BOEK NAAR JE COMPUTER

Re: x

door jeancarlo » 05 dec 2011, 23:33

de rijprof schreef:
agree, but what about if you dont have a person that can come with you during 3 months, what about if you dont have any belgium friend.?
Then the other option is that you follow 20 hours driving school and after those 20 hours you can get a license that allows you to practice alone.
Yes I know, I just want to point that the rules doesnt exactly mean that you are going to practice 3 months. If no driver is with you, you dont practice and you can still pass the practical exam if you are an experienced driver.

Anyways, I know I will pass the practical exam, without practicing for 3 months, I have been driving for 18 years, and I drove already in belgium for 6 Months when my IDL was valid.

In my opinion the rules is not well thought for cases like this one.

Re: x

door de rijprof » 05 dec 2011, 23:26

agree, but what about if you dont have a person that can come with you during 3 months, what about if you dont have any belgium friend.?
Then the other option is that you follow 20 hours driving school and after those 20 hours you can get a license that allows you to practice alone.

Re: x

door Gast » 05 dec 2011, 22:21

de rijprof schreef:
This is considered Racism if you come from another country
This has nothing to do with racisme. This is the law for everyone who lives in Belgium.
Those 3 months are usefull to get used to the Belgian (or European) rules and the way of driving.
I don't think it is a stupid low. In Belgium we want very safe and carefull drivers.
So you get 3 months time to adapt at the the Belgian way of driving.

agree, but what about if you dont have a person that can come with you during 3 months, what about if you dont have any belgium friend.?

then 3 months later you will take the practical exam, and you did not practice during those 3 months. lol

Re: x

door de rijprof » 05 dec 2011, 21:28

This is considered Racism if you come from another country
This has nothing to do with racisme. This is the law for everyone who lives in Belgium.
Those 3 months are usefull to get used to the Belgian (or European) rules and the way of driving.
I don't think it is a stupid low. In Belgium we want very safe and carefull drivers.
So you get 3 months time to adapt at the the Belgian way of driving.

Re: x

door Gast » 05 dec 2011, 16:33

Wouter schreef:Unfortunately Belgium has quite a lot of dumb laws...
But stop blabbering about racism... Everyone has to wait for 3 months, foreigner or Belgian.
By the way: someone who learnt how to drive for example in India or Ghana, not only will have to learn how to drive by our rules, but he/she will first have to "unlearn" how to drive the foreign way... Takes even more time and practice!
So I understand that it's very inconvenient for you, but these rules in particular are not all that dumb...


About the driving without a proper coach:
I'm not completely sure, but I believe the fine can be from 550 euros up to 5500 euros!!

I thought it was only for foreigners the 3 month period. :)

Re: x

door Wouter » 05 dec 2011, 16:29

Unfortunately Belgium has quite a lot of dumb laws...
But stop blabbering about racism... Everyone has to wait for 3 months, foreigner or Belgian.
By the way: someone who learnt how to drive for example in India or Ghana, not only will have to learn how to drive by our rules, but he/she will first have to "unlearn" how to drive the foreign way... Takes even more time and practice!
So I understand that it's very inconvenient for you, but these rules in particular are not all that dumb...

Re: x

door jeancarlo » 05 dec 2011, 16:15

Somebody told me that if you are caught on the street without a driver next to you, the fine is 500 Euro.

Extremely ridiculous. It seems that some Belgium laws were done by dumbs.

Examples of stupid rules:
Even if you are 40 and you have been driving 20 years, you have to wait 3 months to make the practical exam and you cant drive alone. (DUMB LAW)
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. This is considered Racism if you come from another country.


I would really like that somebody gives me a clever explanation of a dumb law, I assume nobody can do this.

Re: x

door levalencia123 » 05 dec 2011, 15:17

Gast schreef:What are the consequences of driving without an accompanying driver? If the police stops to check papers?

What about if I go with a driver that has instead of 8 years of experience, only 7 or 4? If the police stops to check papers?

What are the consequences on both cases in case of an accident?

I just want to know the law about it.

No idea, probably in case of accident the insurance will not be valid.
In case the police stops you and you dont meet these, then a serious fine?

Re: x

door Gast » 05 dec 2011, 14:41

What are the consequences of driving without an accompanying driver? If the police stops to check papers?

What about if I go with a driver that has instead of 8 years of experience, only 7 or 4? If the police stops to check papers?

What are the consequences on both cases in case of an accident?

I just want to know the law about it.

Re: x

door Inazuma » 30 nov 2011, 13:28

luisvalencia123 schreef: So to summarize everything:

I must go to the districthuis for a 36 month temporary drivers license
Then I go to Deurne again and schedule the practical exam within 3 months from now.
Small correction :
The exam must be at least 3 months after the date of issue of the temporary driver's license B.

I also have the contact of a SPANISH Translator, can he be my accompany driver for the practical exam?
You have to arrange a translator with the examination centre - they've got a list of approved translators.

The translator can't be the accompanying coach, as the latter has to remain quiet during the entire examination.
The translator becomes a 4th person in the car.

I must go to a driving school and ask for 20 hours.
The day of the exam, I must however go with an accompany driver?
Yes.
In this case, the only requirement is that this accompanying driver has a valid driver's license B.

Or you could go with the driving school's car and instructor.

Omhoog